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Old 5th January 2012, 10:20 AM
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Re: Kawaef Imam e Zamana

g bahan main zara apnay sawaal ko thora wazay kar doon,
1. Shahansha e Anbia (saww) say lay k Mola Hassan Askari (sa) tak koi rawayat hai jiss main inn nawab e arba (Janab Usman Bin Saeed Al Amri, Janab Mohammed Bin Usman Al Amri, Janab Hussain bin rooj nobakhti, Janab Ali Bin Mohammed Samri) ka zikar ho K YEEH MOLA MUNTAQIM(SA) K NAIB HOON GAY?
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3. ((((Q 3: ans:duaay ahad ki bht taakeed ki gae hai or her mofaateeh mei ap ko mil jaay ge MOLA JAFAR SADIK jjh ka farmaan e paak hai k jo shaks is ahad namy ko 40 din namaz sobah k baad pary ga wo HMARAY QAEEM jjh k yaaro ansaar mei ho ga
ref:gohr e yagana
pge:97
is dua mei aik jumla hai jis ki urdu translation hai"YA ALLAH !mjhay dikha day on janaab ka purnoor jalwa or kaabil e tareef jhalak or sorma lga day meri aankho mei oon k nezaray ka"
to is dua k baray mei MOLA JAFAR SADIK jjh ko kehna chahyay tha na agr MOLA IMAM ZAMANA jjh ki ziarat nae hoti k ALLAH ko daikhnay ka dawa kon krta hai...)))
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PAHLI BAAT TO YEH K AHAD NAMAY MIIN ZIKAR HAI, K WO HAMARY "QAIM K YAARO ANSAAR MAIN SHAMIL HO GAA" ISS KO B ZARA WAZAY KAR DAIN K WO ZIARAT B KARAY GA ZAHOOR PAK SAY PAHLAY????
YAHAAN AAP KO AIK BAAT YAAD DILA DOOON K BAAT MOLA PAK K ZAHOOR PAK SAY PAHLAY KI HO RAHI HAI NA K BAAD KI.......iss ki taeed main aap zara isi dua ko dobara parhain jiss main hai k ""aay Rab e Jaleel .. agar Shahnsha e Zamana(sa) ki samanay aur mairay zamanay main mairi muqarara moat hail ho jaay jisay tumharai zaat nay sab k liay yakeeni qaraar dia hai aur main UNN K KHAROORJ O ZAHOOR say pahlay foat ho jaoon to phir aisa karna k mujay unn k zamana e kharooj main dobara qabar say iss tara nikalna k main apna kafan jhaarta hua nikloon aur apni talwaar e aabdaar ko sontay huay aur apnay jigar shagaaf naizay ko taanay huay aabadion aur sahraoon maain doartoay huay APNAY SHAHNSHA E ZAMANA sa ki nusrat ki awaz par labiak labaik kahta hua jaaon.. ISS POORI DUA MAIN MUJAY TO KAHEEN KUCH AISA NAI MILA JISS MAIN MOLA KAREEM (SA) K KHAROOJ O ZAHOOR SAY PAHLAY ZIARAT KARNAY KA ZIKAR HO AGAR AAP KO KUCH MILA HAI TO PLEASE ZARA WAZAHAT KAR DAIN..
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7. aap nay uper reference dia hai Ghaibat kinn say hai "Hamara parda siraf aur siraf Zalmeen say hai aur hamara Momneen say kisi kisam ka parda nai hai.............." Akmaludeen ki aik hadith hai Page 382 jild 2. " Ahmed bin Ishaq kahty ahin k main Imam(sa) k pass say bara masoro aur mujtamin nikla. dosray din main phri Imam ki khidmat mian hazir hua. aur arz kia Farzand e Rasool(sa) aap nay o ahsan kia iss
say main bahut masroor hoon. pas yeh farmain k Qaim(sa) k liay hazrat Khizar aur Zulqarnain ki kon c sunnat jari ho gee. farmaya. aay ahmad tool e ghaibat. main nay arz kia Farzand e Rasool unn ki ghaibat kitni taweel ho gee. aap nay farmaa Khuda ki qasam ITNI TAWEEL K UNN KI IMAMAT K QAILEEN KI AKSARIAT MURTAD HO JAY GEE. SIRAF WO LOOG APNAY QOAL PAR SABIT QADAM RAHAIN GAY JINN SAY ALLAH NAY HAMARI WILAYAT KA AHAD LIA HAI. JINN K DILLOON PAR IMA LIKH DIA HAI AUR JINN KI APNI RAHMAT SAY MADAD KI" janab iss hadit say to yeh sabit ho raha hai k Momneen ki aksriat b murtad ho jaay gee to agar Momneen jo k Imamat k qail hain agar unn say koi parda nai to phir wo Murtad kyun ho jain gay???
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yeh question main nay dobara iss liay likha hai k zara dobara parhain iss ko iss farman Pak main Mola(sa) farma rahay hain k ""ghabat itni taweel ho gee k UNN KI IMAMAT K QAILEEN KI AKSARIAT MURTAD HO JAY GEE. SIRAF WO LOOG APNAY QOAL PAR SABIT QADAM RAHAIN GAY JINN SAY ALLAH NAY HAMARI WILAYAT KA AHAD LIA HAI. JINN K DILLOON PAR IMA LIKH DIA HAI AUR JINN KI APNI RAHMAT SAY MADAD KI"" aap nay apnay answer 2 main farmaya hai k """Farman e ABU ABDULLAH JAFAR BIN MOHAMMAD jjh
"Qaeem jjh ki 2 ghaibatain hain aik kubra dosri sugra aik mei ap ki qyaam gaah ka ilm aap k makhsoos sheeo ko ho ga or dosri mei ap ki qyaam gaah ka ilm ap k makhsoos mawali ko ho ga""" yahan aap bata sakti hain k lafz e SHIA aur MAWALi main kia farak hai, uss k baad zara uper wali hadith b parain jo main nay Akmalu deen say quote ki hai, (shaikh sandooq ki book jiss ka uper zikar ho chuka hai k wo Mola(sa) k hukam say likhi gai hai) aur baat ILAM ki ho rahi hai na k yeh k loog UNN ki zayarat b karain gay.

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dosri hadith jo aap nay quote ki """وجعلھا کلمت باقیت فی عقبہ لعلھم یرجعون
is aayat k baray mei MOLA ALI JJH nay farmaya "Khuda nay IMAMAT ko qyamat tak k lyay nasl e HUSSAIN jjh mei qaraar dia hai or hum mei say QAEEM jjh k lyay 2 ghaibatain hain aik dosri say taweel hai or os ki Imamat per wohe sabit qadam rahy ga jis ka yakeen qawi or marfat sahe ho gee"
ref:jamal e MUNTAZAR
pge:393,394""""
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iss hadith pak main mujay to koi aisi baat nazar nai aa rahi jahan par ziaarat karnay ki baat ho aap ko agar nazar aa rahi hai to zara wazahat karain Masomeen(sa) ki hadith k sath. aur haan agar aap ""sabit qadam"" rahnay say ziaarat muraad lay rahi hain to iss ko b zara wazay kar dain...
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aap nay farmaya k """"ab reh gay 3 questions apk Q 4,5,6 yeh teeno sawaal 280 hijri k hawalay say he hain..MOLA jjh nay chaha to is ka jawaab b mei he doo ge..
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koe or sawaal pochna ho to poch saktay hain is article k baaray mei
ALAJAL YA MOLA jjh """"
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zara uper quote ki gai ahadith ko parhain aur batain k unn ahadit k baray main aap ka kia khayal hai kia wo sahib e akmaludeen nay wo galat quote ki hain?????
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aap nay apnay message k last main farmaya k ""OMME HANI nay MOLA BAAKIR jjh say arz ki k
فلا اقسم بالخنس
is ka kia mtlb hai?
Farmaya:Ay Omme HAANI IMAM jjh khd ko chopaay gain yahan tak k 260 mei logo say oon ka raabta monqataah ho jaay ga or phr aisay zahir ho gain jaisay andheri raat mei shaahaab chamkta hai,agr tum is zamanay mei mojood raho to apni aankho ko thanda krna"
ref:jamal e Muntazar
pge:402
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ap 280 peh pareshaan hain MOLA jjh nay 260 ka farmaya..ab Q5,6 b clear ho gay,or Q 4:ki in sab answers ko parh k samjh lg gae ho ge.
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ALAJAL YA MOLA jjh"""""
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lagta hai aap nay mairey question 4, 5, 6 ko goar say nai parha zara dobara parahain main nay jo ahadith quote ki hain unn ko zara parhain... aap ko clear kar doon parashaan main nai hoon balkay hairan iss baat say hoon k Mola Hassan Askari(sa) nay to aik ghaibat ka apnay shahadat say pahly zikar kia hai jiss ka zahoor aap ki shahadat par ho raha hai jiss ki gawah uper wali ahadith hain jo main any quote ki hain to phir yeh 280 wali kia baat hai jiss main uper article main likha gaya hai k ghaibat e sughra 280 main hui iss ka matlab k phir to 3 ya iss say b zayada ghaibatain ban rahi hain halan k Masomeen(sa) k farameen gawah hain k ghaibatain siraf 2 hain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Kawaef Imam e Zamana

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Q 3:ka answer oper waly ans say he mil gya ho ga jab mawali ko MOLA ki qyaam gaah ka ptah ho ga to ziarat krna b moshkil baat nae mawali k lyay

agab baat hai, aik taraf to akhari naib abu ul Hassan samri yeh toqeeh paish kar rahay hain aur aik taraf aap hain k apnay nawab e arba ki baat hi mannay ko tayar nai

Book Ehtajaj e tabrisi vol 3 & 4

"Jab abul hassan samri aakharaeen naib ki moat ka waqat hua aur waqat e wafaataa gaya logoon nay unn say pochaa aap kiss k baray main wasiat karty hain?? pas uno nay unn ko aik toqeeh di jo kuch iss tara say hai.

Bismillahirahmaniraheem: aay mohamad ibn ali samri! Khudawand tahmaray gham ain tumharay bhaion ko ajr e azeem anayat karay k tum 6 roaz main wafat pa jao gay. lahaza tum marnay ki khatir tayar ho jao aur apnay wafat k baad k liay kisi ko b apna qaim maqam na banana aur ab ghaibat e taama shuru ho chuki hai, aur zahoor nai hai, magar izn e khuda k baad ho ga aur zahoor toolani mudaat aur qaloob ki qasawat aur zameen k zulmo sitam say parhain honay k baad ho gaa..

ANQAREEB HAMARAY SHIOON K PAAS HAMARAY "MUSHAHIDAY" O "DEEDAR" KA DAWA KARNAY WALAY AAIN GAY, AAGAH HO JAO K JO B KHAROOJ E SUFYANI AUR SEEAHA AASMANI SAY QABAL DEEDAR O "ZAYARAT" KARAY WO JHOOTA AUR AFTARA PARDARZ HAI" LAHOLA WALA QUWAT ILLLA BILLA HIL ALIULAZEEM" iss k baad unn logoon nay iss tokeekh ko masakh karna chaha aur wahan say chalay gay"""


ab zara pany jawab no. 3 par goar karain!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Kawaef Imam e Zamana

afsaano ki duniya mai sb jhoot nhe hota.............


DIL OR BI ULJHY GAA NA PARHEAY KITAABO KO.....



AIK faqeeraana baat hy agr kisi k paly par geyi to

HAR WO BAAT SAHI HY JIS SY AAIMA MASOMEEN SALAWATH KI KOI NA KOI SHAAN KA PEHLU nazr aarhA HO kehny wala jo bi ho jaisa bi ho ye tenshon chor do
or hr wo banda yaa kehny wala galt hy JIS KI BAATO SY SHAAN mai kmi KA IMKAAN NAZR AARAAHA HO

JSI K DIL MANTA hy MAN LY NHe MANY toZABRDASTI to ksis bi tarf sy nhe hy

kitaabo mai agr 10 AHADEES asbaat mai hain to 20 rad mai hain Q WAQT WASTE KRna hy kitaabo mai jaa k bhaai kiya saabit krna hy k mia ziada knowledge rakht hon MOLA a.fs ki ziyaart PAAK huwi hy BOHAT SY LOGO KO kitabo k aagy jaahhn or bi hai bhaai

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Re: Kawaef Imam e Zamana

1. Shahansha e Anbia (saww) say lay k Mola Hassan Askari (sa) tak koi rawayat hai jiss main inn nawab e arba (Janab Usman Bin Saeed Al Amri, Janab Mohammed Bin Usman Al Amri, Janab Hussain bin rooj nobakhti, Janab Ali Bin Mohammed Samri) ka zikar ho K YEEH MOLA MUNTAQIM(SA) K NAIB HOON GAY?

bhae nae manna to alaida baat hai khair mei ab 2nd hadees dikhaa rae hoo apko yakeen karain na karain ap ka moqaddar

Mohamad ibn e abdullah or Hussainyaan nay kaha,hum saamra mei MOLA HASAN ASKRI jjh ki khdmat mei haaazir huay AAP ki khdmat mei is wakt sheeo or dosto ki aik jamaat bhe haazir the k ap ka ghulaam badr AAP ki khdmat mei haazir hua or arz ki MOLA !darwazay per kch log kharay hain jin k baal bikhray huay hain or ghubar aalood hain,AAP nay in k baray mei farmaya:yamni hain or sheea hain is silsilay mei taveel hadees hai,phr IMAM nay badr say farmaya:jaao USMAAN bin saeed omri ko bolaao,thori dair na guzri the k Osman b aa gay,IMAM HASAN ASKRI jjh nay in say farmaya:Osman tum meray wakeel or motmid or maal e khuda k ameen ho,yeh jamaat jo maal laae hai isay tehweel mei lay lo,hum sab nay kaha hmaray syed o sardar yeh to hum jantay thay k Osman behtreen sheea hain lekin ap ki khdmat mei haazir honay say hmaray ilm mei itna ezafa hogya k wo ap k wakeel hain or maal e khuda k ameen hain AAP jjh nay farmaya"hakekat yhe hai or jaan lo k Osman bin saeed omri meray or meray betay MOHAMAD "jo tum logo k MEHDI jjh hain"k wakeel hain"
ref:Jamal e MUNTAZAR
pge:606,607


dosri hadith jo aap nay quote ki """وجعلھا کلمت باقیت فی عقبہ لعلھم یرجعون
is aayat k baray mei MOLA ALI JJH nay farmaya "Khuda nay IMAMAT ko qyamat tak k lyay nasl e HUSSAIN jjh mei qaraar dia hai or hum mei say QAEEM jjh k lyay 2 ghaibatain hain aik dosri say taweel hai or os ki Imamat per wohe sabit qadam rahy ga jis ka yakeen qawi or marfat sahe ho gee"
ref:jamal e MUNTAZAR
pge:393,394


bhae yeh ghaibat e sugra ki daleel di apko,
or ziarat wali daleel is page ko copy kr k day rae hoo..yeh bahar ul anwar jild 12 mei MOLA IMAM ZAMANA jjh k betay say sheikh mazindrani nay sawaal kia ziarat wala to oon ka jawaab yeh thaa..wakiaa bht lamba hai wo khdi parhyay ga mei ziarat ki daleel day rae hoo
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Re: Kawaef Imam e Zamana

Dost jo ALISHEHENSHAH ny Mashwara deya hy us pay ghoor karain.
Haqeeqat to yeh hy keh in 1400 saaloon main na to kitab kisi apny k hath main rahi hy na he qalam ,Zulm ka toofan tha jo har taraf jari raha hy sb ny apna apna hisa dala kaam ke batoon ko nikal deya geya aur marzi ke dal dee gaeen yeh aik lambi bahas hy Mukhtasar yeh khe kitaboon sy to na Allah ko sabit keya jaa sakta hy keh who hay wahid ul la shareek hy na Rasoool s.e.w ko Rasool sabit keya jaa sakta hy na he is doar main Quraan ko Allah ke kitab sabit keya jaa sakta hy keunkeh na to zahir main koey Imam Mojood hain na Nabi jo khaliq say us ke sadaqat ke gawahi lay dain, Jo Quran hamaray pas hy jab khaliq ke kainat ny nazil farmaya to koey Araab nahee thay Jab Shahenshah e Anbia s.e.w.w ny umat tak pahunchaya to bhi Aarab nahee thay aur aaj jo Quran hamary pas hy who Aarab sy pur hy to janab jis ny Araab lagaey main us ke bahas main anhee jaoon ga kehny ka matlab yeh hy keh jab Quran apni Haqiqi Shakal main haee chahey zair zabar he man lee jaey tabdeelee to ho gaeehy Agar Bhajny waly(Allah Tala) aur pahunchany waly Rasool s.e.w.w ko munasib nahee laga to phir dosra kon hota hy us main tarmeem karny wala ,
Mera Matlab Quran-e-Pak pay bahas ya tanqeed nahee mari hazar bar toba main kon hota hoon Main to khud Rozana usi ke tilawat karta hon aur Muntazir hon keh Hqiqi Israr o Ramooz k izhar farmany wali zaat e paak jald tashreef lay aaey aur tamam tar haqaiq sy parda pooshi farmaey, To Meray dost kehty ka matlab yeh hy keh ap kin kitaboon k pechy parhy hoey hain kin reviaat ke batain kar rahy hain , sb kuch kitaboon main nahee hy , jin pay kuch israr kholy jaty hain who to wasy he dunya bayzaar hoty hain dunya sy nata toor k kaheen veranoon main Mahboob k jalvoon k lutf uthaty hain , Bahut kam hoty hain jo Moashry ke islah ke zima laty hain aksar ke tableeg zaban tak mahdood rahti hy un main sy bahut qaleel hoty hain jo khud koey kitab likhty hain , Bhai Mukhtasar yeh keh Ankhain khool k agar dakhain to israr to kitaboon sy 10% bhi nahee melty.
Ab agar bahas baraey bahas he karni hy to phir shuroo ho jaty hain keh pehly to Allah ke Zaat e pak ko kitaboon sy sabit karty hain phir Rasool s.e.w ko phir Quran ko us k bad agay ke bari aaey ge ,
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